Weight Watchers Momentum
Weight Watchers recently unveiled a new plan: Momentum. Beneath the hyperbole, the main difference in this plan is the use of "Filling Foods, satisfying choices you can rely on to help keep hunger in check."
The Momentum plan is still based on the Weight Watchers Points system (ala the Flex plan) - but also has elements of the Core plan (based around eating more filling foods rather than counting Points).
The guidelines of Momentum are as follows (from Ronisweigh):
- 5 servings of fruits & veggies
- 2 servings of milk products
- 6 glasses of "liquids"
- 2 tsp healthy oils
- 1-2 servings of lean protein
- 1 multivitamin a day
- Choose Whole Grains when possible
- At least 30 minutes of activity a day most days of the week
- Limit sugar and alcohol
Sounds like a good plan. However when it comes to satiety or filling foods - many people find that it is proteins that tend to sate your appetite (not necessarily lots of fiber or volume). Given that the plan includes just 1-2 servings of protein - one must wonder how "filling" this would be.
Weight Watchers remains a perennial favorite - with many citing the accountability of weekly meetings combined with healthy guidelines the reason for their weight management success.
Weight Watchers Online charges a sign-up free of $29.95 plus $16.95 per month - although they offer a discount for 3 month sign-up of $65 (which works out to about $11.68 per month).
UPDATE: Momentum is no longer available, we encourage users to check out the new Points Plus programs instead.
Please note that Points Plus and Points are registered trademarks of Weight Watchers Inc. This website is a compensated affiliate of Weight Watchers Inc.
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Created / Updated: January 8, 2012
It's basically the same as their Points system, except that they tell you what foods to use your Points on so you don't eat 18-24 Points' worth of ice cream sandwiches in a day and nothing else. It makes sense to me...it's just educating people on how to use their Points to the fullest so they don't feel deprived and so they get a balanced diet. I think their Points system is pretty good, but it lacks structure...they give you the freedom to eat whatever you want, but they don't really help a lot of people to choose foods that would give them the best results.
ReplyI am sure weight watchers is good for some people. But I agree I think it lacks in protein, also the recommended daily fruits and vegetables I have read is 7 for men and 9 for women, it looks like it is lacking there too. No mention of plant vs. animal protein and a good mix either.
ReplyEw.. points. Do people really still have time to sit around and count?
I've personally helped about 5 people who gave up weight watchers in their first week. Their stick rate... from what I saw is horrid.
Anyone else on the same boat?
P.S- Im not going to knock the diet itself if it works or not.. but the fact that people don't stick to it seems like a major thumbs down from me.
ReplyI dunno, I was able to stick to it for several years while I was losing weight. I didn't really count Points exactly, but it was helpful to have sort of a benchmark to tell how many calories were in certain things. Example: I soon knew that a piece of cake was about 1/4 of my daily caloric intake and if I wanted to use my calories on that, I'd have to eat a lot less than normal that day. Because I know a lot about nutrition, I was able to choose mostly foods that were low in Points, yet high in protein and satiety. I ate a lot of eggs and chicken and nuts and beans for my protein because they were low in Points, but they filled me up. I also chose to use a lot of my Points on fruits/veggies and I always tried to pick complex carbs instead of simple carbs so that I wasn't spiking my blood sugar. It's definitely a doable program, but you do need to know a little bit about nutrition to get optimal results. And I wouldn't rely on the WW leaders to help you out there...most of them know absolutely NOTHING about nutrition and they just try to teach you how to use your Points to still try and eat the same crap you used to eat, but lighter. Example: Instead of a sundae, put a banana in a bowl, put a scoop of fat free ice cream on it, top with fat free Cool Whip and a sprinkle of nuts...voila, instant "sundae" for a low fewer Points. But loaded with artificial ingredients and not a whole lot better for you.
ReplyHmm seems to me that what you've accumulated over these years is a "habit"
Something I try to engineer into my clients so that eventually everything goes into autopilot. After reading your long winded post (it was good tho!) it certainly seems that you've gotten a grasp of what works, and more IMPORTANTLY what works for YOU.
I guess you can take from it what you will, I looked over WW a bit more and found some people who were willing to share. Still... to me it seems very "surface-level" stuff.
But that's through my eyes. Take from it what you will I guess.
ReplyI did WW about 10 years ago lost 60 lbs was a size 8 felt amazing. Kept it off for about 2 years I just got tired of counting but am battling the bulge yet again. I am considering going back because I know it works. Been there done that. It is a lifelong change not a quick fix. I know it is worth the effort though.
ReplyGood for you! I agree with you, it works if you work it!
ReplyWeight Watchers was and is the absolute best thing that's ever happened to me. I'm 20 years old and went from 277 pounds to 159 in less than a year and my mom started 3 months ago and has already lost 40 pounds. I know that results aren't typical but for people like me it's heaven sent. From the moment I started I knew it was what I've always needed. The points just put into perspective how much you eat a day a how much you SHOULD be eating a day. It also shows the importance of exercise and being active in general in the simplest way possible. I don't mean to sound obsessed but the points gave me an amazing strategy to my everyday life because that's just it, you're changing your lifestyle it's not a diet where you will gain all of your weight and then some, back. It might not have worked for you but I think every overweight person should give it a shot.
ReplyThank you so much for sharing that. I just started weight watchers 3 days ago. I'm hoping that it is something that will really work for me. So far, i've really been sticking to it hard. And i've found that i have at least 16 points left over everyday. But, i'm not starving. I'm 260 pounds, i don't know if i've lost any yet because i am supposed to weigh myself until tuesday. It's the summer so i don't have school, so i've been working out twice a day. I really want to look better for my senior year. and losing as much weight as you did in a year, would truly be a blessing. I know your results are not typical, but i hope i will be just a sucessful.
ReplyGood luck Amanda -your story has made me root for you!
ReplyI think that it's a great program that is easy to stick to. Once you get a hang of it and know what points are in the foods you generally eat everyday it's so easy. I just got my sister and brother in law hooked on it. They've both dropped weight their first week. I don't attend meetings. However, I follow the plan religiously at home and am in the best shape of my life. I think it's great way to figure calories in vs. calories out. It works if you work it. People start and stop weight loss programs all the time and wonder why they're the same weight they always have been. Sticking to it is key. Give it a try.
ReplyI have used the points system in many of its incarnations and I've found that nothing works better for me than tracking what I eat using this system. Also, I've tallied the amount of time it takes to count up my points and it's about 5-10 minutes a day, max. All effective weight loss methods take time and effort. If you don't spend time counting points, you're going to spend it tracking your food intake using some other system.
ReplyThe problem I have with even healthy eating plans (which WW generally is) is that they still don't teach you how to tune into your bodies fuel needs. and as for points - not for me thanks!
ReplyToo vague, I'd need more details to be sold. I also agree on needing more protein (but of course I would say this!)
Liquids? Does that include high fructose corn syrup? ;-)
BTW, I just posted a new blog entry on a list of clean foods that bodybuilders use when doing clean bulking and cutting cycles:
http://www.priceplow.com/blog/7/clean-foods-list
If they're using all stuff from that list and getting enough protein (which I'm guessing they're not), then I'd be more on board.
ReplyI haven't been on Weight Watchers points, but I did use ediets when they had fast food exchanges for their eating plans. That, along with an article on fast food diets from a womens magazine, and my resolve to find the best tasting diet menues and diet foods I could was the first time I EVER had breakthrough success with a diet.
I work in retail and am always in the vicinity of a food court. And yes I do love fast food. Those diet exchanges gave me tools to learn how to eat my favorite foods responsibly and in time I got into the habit of adding the fruits and veggies because there was no longer a tug o war between what I liked and what I needed nutriionally. I could have both.
I am all for a program that teaches people to eat what they want to eat in a responsible way. We aren't all ment to eat like the average nutritionist. And I get darn angry when I see a nutritionist on tv say "no diet soda, no McDonalds, no cake". Because that kind of info kept me yo yoing for years (I'm tearing up a little).
ReplyLow protein, low fat. Sounds like a high carb diet to me. Not exactly the best choice for controlling hunger for many people - even if it is whole grains.
There is quite a difference between bulking up the volume of food, and controlling the hormonal effects of food. Hormones determine hunger/satiety. Bulk plays a role but you can't just leave out the multitude of other factors and expect to get sustainable results. Losing weight is not JUST about feeling full all the time - which by the way this plan won't do for many as far as I can tell from the review.
I'm wondering what they consider a serving of protein?
2 tsp of healthy fat is 7% of a 1200 calorie diet. That number is incredibly low and unhealthy. You'll get some more from the protein. I can't tell how much though.
I think the WW plan was much better when I followed it, successfully, back in the 90s. It seemed to be higher protein & fat. Back they had what were called exchanges (if I recall correctly).
To be "on plan" we had to eat 4 -5 servings of protein, 3 fat, 2-3 fruit, minimum 5 or 6 vegetables, and 4-6 servings of "bread & starches". And then you had what they called, "floaters", extra food you could consume - AFTER you were at least somewhat adequately nourished with a hunger/hormonal satiating balance of macros.
When I tried WW again a few years ago it just seemed like there was little focus on assuring people consumed a nutritionally balanced diet - other than "choose this whenever possible" (yeah right!). On Flex, everything just seems to be an option. This feeds the "I want to lose weight but don't want to diet" mentality - more a marketing ploy than anything esle.
Here's a choice for ya: whole wheat toast or a WW desert? Which would you choose if you were a sugar junky like me?
The primary focus these days seems to be eat what you want within reason. Eating what you want within reason isn't bad, in and of itself. For me personally, it was too much "freedom". Most people are overweight because they tend to eat empty calories/points, things like uhm, some of the stuff Weight Watchers sells at meetings.
I wasn't eating right, I was getting sick, losing my hair, tired all the time, miserable, hungry and constantly waiting for the next meal because I never felt completely satisfied, oh yeah, AND I wasn't losing weight. And what did I do when I stopped losing weight? I ate less of course. Hey, I was committed!
Weight Watchers is absolutely great for a basic education (quit eating huge portions etc), accountability, support and ideas for healthy lifestyle choices. I facilitate a weight loss support group that offers folks the same thing - for FREE.
ReplyWhat type of meetings do you do free? I am interested...I have been on so many diets and spent so much money, that I cannot spend anymore to just fail again. Please inform.
ReplyI remember the exchange program from WW...I was 11 at the time, embarking on my first official diet program. I think it was a solid program too. I even created my own modified version of it a few years ago to help me track what I put in my mouth.
I like being able to check off a box when I have a serving of something instead of calculating points or writing down every morsel that goes in my mouth. It makes the process easier, but keeps me on plan.
I find it mind boggling that protein is still often thrown into a diet program as an afterthought. "Be sure to get those grains and veggies in your diet. Oh yeah, have a serving or two or protein throughout the day. But don't forget those grains and veggies. Grains and veggies, grains and veggies."
Must stop now before I start banging my head on keyboard in frustration.
ReplyI totally agree with you in that you do have to eat right as well as eat less.
The purpose of the "eat what you want" plans is to make dieting more tolerable for those people that need that, so they can stick to their diet plan.
It also helps teach portion control for maintenance and the facilitation of habit changes that can last a lifetime. But the dieter does need to be responsible about making it a nutritionally sound eating plan.
For me it was about coming back to the person I was before I started abusing food. Not trying to turn me into someone who prefers fruit over chocolate cake for dessert.
ReplyI also attended WW Meetings in the 90s, and lost weight successfully, became a Lifetime Member, led meetings, and kept my weight within my recommended range for over 3 years. The weight loss plan with which I successfully lost weight was very much like you described. I do remember Eat Less, Eat Basic, Eat More...and each category you mentioned had little boxes to check off for accountability - including multivitamin and water. When I led meetings, every time a new weight loss plan was introduced, I had to try it first. I had developed a great exercise plan by this time, and I believe this is what helped me keep my weight in control because continually changing the plan was not in my best interest. I received a degree in Dietetics, and when the plan changed to the point I could no longer agree with it due to how I was educated and what I believed, I resigned. I believe a healthy exercise plan and following ADA exchanges and/or carbohydrate control is best for me.
Now, I am not knocking the Weight Watchers program because there are so many individuals who need the accountability and support of a meeting. In fact I recommend this program over all others because the premise is healthy food choices, limits, portion control, activity, support and accountability. Many of us who have more education in the field of nutrition tend to get some false perception that everyone understands these basic principles, and it is quite the contrary.
Replywhy don't you look into it a little more. It's not for them to teach you what your body needs. They just put you in the right direction and teach portion control
ReplyHow can I access your support group?
ReplyFiber never fills me up like advertised, but protein, and plenty of it does. Oh, that "stop dieting" slogan is bunk. Weight Watchers is a diet and always will be.
ReplyAre they losing so many customers that they have to come up with gimmicks like this? The person I know who has had the most success with WW signed up to get the materials, then quit and followed the plan on her own. She lost weight, it was basically free... though I imagine you could find out enough about WW right here on this blog so you could mimic the plan in your own way without ever having to sign up.
ReplyLosing weight is very simple:
1) Exercise
2) Eat right
However, most people don't want to do #1. As a result, #2 has to become very complicated. This is why we get these complicated systems that makes customers use points, fat/carb/protein measuring, crash diets, etc...
ReplyI'm right there with you, Trent! My personal plan? Eat right and exercise...it's worked wonderfully for years now. If I feel like I've gained a bit of weight, I up the exercise, cut a few (very few) calories, or both. If I feel like I've lost too much weight, I scale back the exercise and eat a it more.
Simple!
ReplyI agree. However; spoken like a true person who has never had a weight problem or had to lose a large amount of weight or eats for emotional reasons. I am not overly obese, and people never guess my weight as being as much as it is because I am almost 6' tall. However, having a rough childhood and growing up with a TERRIBLE example of how to eat and being raised on mostly fast food I became an emotional eater and to this day find myself doing the same things over and over and expecting a different result (kinda like the definition of insanity). I have had great success with many programs but for many it's not the NOT KNOWING how to eat or exercise, it's more of a mental thing and not dealing with the emotional aspects of why you overeat to begin with. At my heaviest I have been 252lbs, my lightest 182 lbs which is very close to my ideal weight. So, here I go again back to WW, to try their latest program and try to get rid of the old tapes that play and tell me to deal with things by eating. Like I said, it's easy to say and if you don't have issues easy to do but don't judge unless you've been there. I have.
ReplyHahahahahahaha, I agree, COMPLETELY.
ReplyYeah, that's what I did...I got the WW materials from my parents and then I did the program on my own. That way, I ate just pure, non-processed foods and wasn't forced to weigh myself every week. I didn't miss the input of the group/leaders; IMHO, they're only there to push the WW products and help you figure out how best to cheat the system.
ReplyI used WW a couple years ago to lose weight, and I've recently rejoined when they were launching the Momentum program. To me, it seemed like a blending of the Points plan and the Core plan (where you could eat whatever you wanted as long as it was a Core food).
I'm getting in more protein than the guideline suggests because that's what works for me. The great thing about WW is that you can tailor it to meet your lifestyle and what works for your body, while still learning how to eat healthy and incorporate exercise into your life.
ReplyCan you tell me more about the Filling Foods part of the new plan? I was a Weight Watchers Member and lost 50 pounds. I am still following the points and have kept it off give or take about 10 pounds. But I no longer have the money to rejoin a group. I have the new Momentum book but I do not understand how the points in parenthesis works. Can someone help me?
ReplyI really wonder who created the new WW Momentum program's "filling foods" list. There are things like puffed wheat and puffed rice, instant oatmeal, etc. on it. These are foods with a glycemic index higher than table sugar! They are filling for about 5 minutes ... just like candy is! Somebody at WW really, really needs to understand that the concept of glycemic index is more important than the concept of bulk or fiber when it comes to what keeps you full, longer. They seem to think bulky carbs is the way to get full. Even weirder, they have MILK on the list of filling foods. How is milk a food?
BTW, I am a lifetime WW member and have lost a great deal of weight on the plan. The exchange system is a good basic system of portion control as purchasing currency. However, it WW's is also full of flaws and this new 'filling food' list really is one of their bigger flaws!
ReplyI am an old timer weight watcher. I still would rather do the weighing and measuring. For me, it had more structure. I never liked the points system.
I also find that it takes a good counselor working with you. I have been in classes where there were some real nitwits teaching. I have more knowledge on nutrition than they do.
I had a really fantastic counselor named Pat Slaughter who was killed in a car accident in Hollywood, Fl. several years ago. The last one I had didn't know beans about a lot of stuff. I sat in her class wanting to challenge everything she said. But I didn't want her to feel stupid.
Good luck to all of us "losers". We all know what to do but motivation helps.
P.S. protein is good to carry you through the night and other times when your body is craving something.
(you need to add an edit to this. I put this further up in the wrong place.)
ReplyPlain and simple, if you are trying to lose weight, and you follow the "rules", Weight Watchers works. No cheating = weight loss.
ReplyI lost 20 pounds in 2 months on Weight Watchers - but the ugly part was this: I still looked pudgy in many places (the "trouble spots"), even though I looked scary skinny in others (wrists, chest, feet). I ate popcorn all the time, sugar-free jello, high fiber english muffins, soy hot dogs on whole wheat bread...thankfully I knew enough about nutrition that I knew which foods to choose. The least successful people were the ones that kept a lot of sugar in their diet and couldn't break the addiction. Sounds like Momentum addresses the "I let my 2 year old drink Diet Coke" crowd who couldn't tell you jack about how to burn a calorie. Good for them! But not for me...
...oops, forgot to say - while on WW, I didn't exercise at all - hance the trouble spots and the low self image. Happy to say I am now a toned size 8, instead of a flabby size 4.
ReplyI just signed up for Weight Watchers at work, to go with a friend that really wanted to do the program. Went to an "introduction" meeting that really didn't give much info, just to get a check from us. I certainly hope this new "momentum" program is not about food logs... I don't need anything more in my life that I need to keep track of.
ReplyFor those that posted that it is all so simple, and only involves exercise and cutting down on calories... I would say that doesn't work for everyone. People have different metabolisms, and different lives, and situations. and food restrictions, etc. These are not excuses, they are reality. I know the nutritional stuff, but my issues are having the time to do the planning..the shopping, packing food for the day, etc. Hopefully, I will pick up some pointers on simple things I can do that work well for me.
I did weight watchers with my friends instead of going to the official meetings. One friend had done it for a year or two and had great results, but didn't want to keep paying for it. So we did the flex plan, met once a week and did a weigh in together. We talked about what the challenges were. We also shared new products we enjoyed and cooking tips. Losing weight is a three fold issue, food intake, exercise and mental endurance. Having the support of friends addressed all three and we all lost weight together.
I lost 25 pounds and kept it off for a couple of years. People make it sound like it's hard to count points, but after the first month you can eyeball points for nearly everything. Counting points is how I lost the weight, but WW is a lifestyle change, so I kept it off fairly easily & only gained the weight back when I abandoned those principles returning back to the stress of graduate school. It worked great for me, but if you want to be a hardcore dieter then you need a more rigid diet program. Weight watchers is great for those of us that want to live a healthier life without being obsessed with every last bite we eat, and eating nutritiously was never difficult for me.
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