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Fat Hostesses: An Airline Health Hazard?

Air India has fired nine hostesses after declaring them 'medically unfit' to fly. The air hostesses were between 11kg (24 lb) and 32kg (70 lb) overweight.

The women were grounded some months ago, and in that time were unable to lose enough weight.

Air India said safety was a "prime function" and that "being grossly overweight does have a bearing on reflexes and can impair agility required to perform the emergency functions". (from BBC).

Some of the hostesses had filed a legal challenge through the Indian High Court - but it was thrown out.

Obesity and air travel is a controversial topic - with Canadian airlines currently debating what constitutes an overweight person and how they should be charged for a possible second seat. Previously the Canadian Supreme Court ruled that 'disabled' passengers should not be charged for a second seat. It appears that morbidly obese travelers must have a doctor's note with them that confirms they will require the second seat.

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27 Comments

SCal on 01/ 7/09

They are "disabled" by choice, unless they have a medical condition.

Those hostesses are costing the airline more in fuel charges.

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Fran on 01/ 7/09

"The air hostesses were between 11kg (24 lb) and 32kg (70 lb) overweight" ... what was their cutoff point, I wonder? Still, they are talking about quite a few KG there, so it's clearly not just a vanity issue.

The airline grounding them is sort of douchey, but I can see how very overweight stewardesses would be problematic. I think that the safety concern is valid. Plus, given how ridiculously cramped most planes are, you'd think that a very large person would have difficulty efficiently carrying out their job.

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julie on 01/ 7/09

Do you really think, with all the discrimination and health issues that go along with being overweight, that people really choose it? That's an ugly attitude. And 24 to 70 pounds overweight won't make that much of a difference. There are football players and weight lifting types who are not fat who may weigh almost twice what I weigh, should they pay twice as much? What about children, half as much?

Are they firing the overweight men? Or are men not doing host jobs, only women?

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JimK on 01/ 7/09

"Do you really think, with all the discrimination and health issues that go along with being overweight, that people really choose it?"

Yes. Most overweight people are NOT the special medical exceptions you and they would like the world to believe. Most overweight people choose to eat more than they expend. Humans are self-destructive more often than not, and this is one way an affluent civilization manifests that tendency; we overeat.

Save the moral outrage for something else. Most overweight people can lose weight if they try. Most don't try. Period.

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Dawn V on 01/ 8/09

Your comments are to all encompassing. How can you say most don't try. And who are you to decide who tries and who doesn't? Unless you have someone's genetic make up and walk in their shoes you have no right to be so high and mighty. I go to the gym 3-4x a week. I am on the treadmill 6 days a week. Anytime I put more than 800 calories in my body - I gain weight.

I am a mom of 3 teenagers. I work full time, plus keeping a house, doing laundry, try to keep up with the bills, school functions and being a taxi services for the kids and their friends. There is so much stress in my life I can't always be focused on me and what I can eat. I am up at 430 in the morning just so I can get time on the treadmill - and then give myself the minimal time at the gym after work- all the while feeling guilty for taking the time from my kids.

I used to really appreciate this blog - but lately some of the comments are just plain mean. Too many of those who comment need to get off your high horses and quit bashing those of us who work too hard at this weight crap - many of us have a hard time even enjoying life when we know we are constantly being scrutinized for love handles and saddlebags.

I hope no one ever bashes you for your imperfections. As for me - I'm really tired of what many of those who comment have allowed this blog has become.


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Alison on 01/ 8/09

Well said, Dawn V.

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SCal on 01/ 8/09

Simple, you don't lift weights. You can run all you want, but you will gain weight if you don't keep running for the rest of your life.

Lifting weights increases metabolism. Your body becomes a calorie furnace.

You are doing it wrong.

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JimK on 01/ 9/09

Why would you give reasonable advice to people? It's like bashing your head against a wall. Everyone wants to be a victim, eat whatever they want and blame everyone else for their problems.

Come on. Don't give out useful advice like "lift weights to help your metabolism become more efficient." That's not going to help a permanent victim. Say something like "It's not your fault if you don't watch your diet and exercise smartly. It's McDonald's fault, or that magazine you read that made you feel bad, or any one of a million things other than you take in more energy than you expend."

Some may be sick of hearing things like this, but I'm sick of enabling people to continue to blame the world around them for THEIR choices. When do MY feelings get considered?

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Dawn V on 01/ 9/09

See this is exactly what I mean - everyone offers all their know how - but you don't know. You don't know me from anyone else. You are not doctors and guess what - it isn't as simple as what goes and what comes out. To Spectra - I have a calorie calculator and yes I do know how many calories I am eating, - Jim K - I am lifting weights. I am 45 years old and have been trying for so long - I have a brain and do know what I am suppose to do to lose weight and be healthy - but guess what? It isn't working, and all your superior attitudes are very degrading.

Are you doctors who have all the answers? No - so get off your high horses. You are part of the problem in this world.

Don't bother responding, because I am deleting Dietblog from my reading. There are encouraging people in the world who aren't so intent on criticizing.

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julie on 01/ 9/09

Nothing more annoying than people who have never had a weight problem, yet know all the answers. Obviously, they are not intelligent at all, if they were, they could look around, see the low rates of success, how much effort and money goes into it, etc. If it comforts them to think that overweight people don't know any better than to sit on their butts eating fast food and never exercising, because their simple minds can't accept any other solution, they're not even worth arguing with.

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JimK on 01/ 9/09

Funny...I have a weight problem. Had it most of my life. I've lost 110 lbs in the last 18 months and have another 100 to go.

I didn't whine about it or blame the food industry or pretend that I wasn't stuffing my face and lying about how much I eat. I did it by changing how and what I eat, counting calories and upping my fitness level with the goal of health, which has the side benefit of weight loss.

I WORKED at it, and I continue to do so. I MAKE time to do it. I don't lie to myself and pretend that I ate 1000 calories today when I really ate 2500. I work hard at this, and I stay as honest with myself as it is possible for a human being to be. Most importantly I take full and complete responsibility for my size and health. NO ONE did this to me. I don't have a glandular issue. I'm not big boned. I don't starve myself and magically find myself gaining weight. I ate. I ate more than I needed...much more...and it is up to me to take it off.

But you go ahead and assume I'm not speaking from experience and science. If it helps you pretend that there really are that many special medical exceptions to the laws of the conservation of energy, you go right ahead. I'll be over here, losing weight, gaining strength and health, enjoying my food and streamlining my metabolism.

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SCal on 01/ 9/09

What is your weightlifting program? Does it include compound lifts? If you aren't doing FULL Squats and Deadlifts your program is bad.

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Spectra on 01/ 7/09

I always thought there was a weight limit for flight attendants on US airlines to make sure they could comfortably get around the plane and to make sure the plane's weight limit wasn't exceeded. I would think that it would be really uncomfortable to be a flight attendant and be very overweight...last I checked, no one forces anyone to be a flight attendant, so if people are complaining about it, why not just get a job in a different industry?

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Berto on 01/ 7/09

Very interesting in that Air India is a state-owned company. This is the government taking a stance, that's for sure.

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charlotte on 01/ 8/09

Do they fire fat pilots?

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Dr. J on 01/ 8/09

Yes! They are an equal opportunity discriminator :-)

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/200806413480268?f=rss

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crystal on 01/ 8/09

I agree with Jim, except I wouldn't say people don't try. Every person's situation is different. Also just because you try, doesn't mean you succeed. Being healthy is a life long choice, not a six month nutrasystem plan. Dawn, if everyone went to the gym 3-4 times a week and ate 800 or less calories per day FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE, I'm sorry but overweight people would be extremely rare.

As far as travel expense...If someone has a medical condition, no matter what it is, a doctors note should be a requirement. Weight should have nothing to do with it. Passengers with a Doctor's note should have no extra charge. Passengers without one should pay for their seat, if it takes two than they should pay for two.

If someone can do all of the job requirements they should be able to keep their job. If not, than I'm sorry, they should find something new.

Our society is so overly sensitive and weak.

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bijou on 01/ 8/09

I'm a small person at barely 5'2" and less than 100 lbs, and I find airplanes very cramped. If a person of my size finds it cumbersome to move around the cabin, I can only imagine how difficult it is for a bigger person. Add the fact that flight attendants and hostesses need to maneuver those food carts and respond swiftly to passengers' requests and any emergencies that may arise. I'm sure they all receiver proper training to learn how to do so, but there's much to be said against allowing grossly overweight (not merely chubby) flight attendants in the air.

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psychsarah on 01/ 8/09

Crystal-"if everyone went to the gym 3-4 times a week and ate 800 or less calories per day FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE" there would be a lot of malnourished, unhealthy people wandering around, overweight or not! 800 calories is starvation-it is not enough to maintain basic bodily functions, and it is not sufficient to ensure the RDA of all the vitamins and minerals we need to live.

Furthermore, even people who eat healthfully and exercise can be overweight. I know its hard to believe for those of you who don't deal with it, but humans vary on many factors (height, intelligence, skin colour etc.) and we should not be so shocked that people's weight would vary too. If we are "supposed to" eat 800 calories and work out vigourously just to maintain the weight that people like you and Jim deem appropriate, we would be weak, irritable, and unable to be productive in other areas of lives (see the literature on severe food restriction-people start to hallucinate and become deluded about food). I choose to priortize my physical and mental health above being esthetically pleasing for closeminded people.

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Cheri Sullivan on 01/ 8/09

Dawn,800 calories probilly isnt enough nourishment for your activity level. You may be slowing down your metabolism. I had this problem and used a calorie calculator I found on diet blog to find the proper calories for my activity level. It took almost 3 months for my metabolism to rebound. Meanwhile I focused on trying to get in 6-9 servings of fruits and veggies. My energy level did come up and my workouts became more effective. It might be worth checking out, best of luck to you.

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Spectra on 01/ 8/09

More like, Dawn probably ISN'T eating 800 calories a day. Lots of people underestimate how many calories they actually eat in a day. Members of the Calorie-Restriction program rigorously count out their calories so that they eat something like 900-1000 calories a day and they are all extremely slim. So unless you're sitting there measuring out your food, add about 500 calories or so to what you think you're eating and that's probably closer to what you're actually getting.

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Cheri on 01/ 9/09

I agree that this is usually the case but there are exceptions. The mantra of eat less move more can be taken to extremes. I was doing two a days of weight training, running, and yoga. I also was eating an all natural diet that consisted of a lot of fruits and veggies. I figured that they are really right?
When I did a calorie calculator I was shocked to find out that I was taking in so few calories. When I adjusted up to 1200 cal, my energy cmae back and my workouts became more effective even though I did scale back some. That was just my experience.

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FJ on 01/ 8/09

For people saying this is discrimination... that's idiotic.

They made CONSCIOUS choices which got them into the fat state. Even then, they had a chance to lose the weight and they didn't.

I say good... i see nothing wrong with this decision. It makes good business sense. A fat person is slower to deliver service and takes more fuel to fly. Loose-Loose.

Let's hope they don't swing to the other end of the spectrum and hire Mary Kate clones.

- FJ

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Iamalittlechubbytoo on 01/10/09

Have you ever had a very large flight attendant's ass in your face as they were bending over to talk to the person across the aisle from you?? Not nice. Could imagine a team of attendants squeezing down the narrow aisles? So if one is over certain BMI then why not hire all FA's over a certain BMI? We are not talking model slim here. I don't think it is discrimination at all, it is just practicality. Give them office jobs. When a pilots eyesight goes or they are too heavy to sit in the cockpit and manuever the controls do give them a pass? nope.

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andrea on 01/11/09

My god.

People come to this site for help and advice about a very sensitive topic and then get browbeaten personally by people like JimK, and called "permanent victims" by someone who doesn't even know them ?

I've lost weight through diet and exercise too and I know how hard it is. I would never EVER belittle someone who is trying to do it, just because I succeeded and they're still trying to come up the hill.

Some people never try, you say. Well, when it comes to compassion, apparently that's something JimK has never tried.

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SCal on 01/13/09

Truth hurts. Everyone is so overly sensitive these days. Its sad.

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