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NBC5i.com has an (advertising?) feature titled "Good Vibrations Help Tone Muscle, Melt Fat".

"Power Plates" vibration machines move your body in three different directions as you stand on a vibrating platform and hold a vibrating handle. The result is muscle strength, flexibility and bone loss prevention.

By holding poses for up to a minute, '"You can get a total workout in 15 to 30 minutes," personal trainer Kay Smith said.

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Vibrate your way to fitness?
That sounds pretty good - a "total" workout in 15-30 minutes. The personal trainer goes on to say that "You'd have to do about an 850-pound squat to get your muscles to work as deeply." There are few people who could squat that kind of weight - only the top powerlifters.

The article links to a study showing the benefits of the machine. However upon reading the abstract of this study - the actual health improvements are improved gait and body balance in elderly people.

So what's the point of this post?

There are many machines and gadgets that do offer some kind of health benefit for some people - however these benefits are grossly exaggerated. I find it difficult to believe that standing on vibrating exercise machine will "melt fat". I find it even more difficult to believe that it can be compared to an 800 pound squat.

UPDATE: There is now a blog and discussion site devoted to Whole Body Vibration platforms - called Vibration Training - please visit this site to continue any discussion.
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Janene

I am currently using this system and have been for the last 5 months. I can tell you that it is not as simple as "just standing on a vibrating machine" any more than weight training is about "holding onto some heavy things". You do have to put in the effort, like any exercise the effort you put in determines the results, it is far from a miracle treatment and is certainly not a scam. I have found that for the time involved (15-30 mins 3 times a week) it is far more effective than doing free weights. I have built up my muscle strength, toned up and lost about 12 kilos since I started using Power Plate - I recommend it to anyone and everyone!!

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Jim

I stand corrected. However I still don't get the 800 pound squat comment.

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Jan

I think this type of gadget, much like Pilates, sells itself easily to women who want to "tone up" (the myth of toning vs. building muscle). There are tons of people out there who won't work with weights because they assume that working out "like a man" will make them look like a man. So the effectiveness might be arguable, but it is a genius marketing idea.

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Lloyd Shaw

Yea , stealing other peoples uni reports , awards and specs to attach it to a piece of Chinese made plastic like a Power-Plate is " Great Marketing "

A word to Jim , you are wise to question any statement surrounding Vibration Training .There are about 4 machines out of 35+ that do as thay claim. Not a good record so far. We boycotted Power-Plates here in our studios in New Zealand because of faulse claims. We now have other units that arnt available to the public. Designed for studio use only.

And holy shit , what a difference.

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Peter

I've tried the Power Plate, not sure how good it is, but it did help a lot when I had some lower back pain.

Lloyd - What's so different about the machines you have in New Zealand?

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Lloyd

We have alot of the European Vibration Therapy machines like Powerplate here in N.Z. also . Which is why you found it good for pain relief but didnt find it that hard.
Vibration Training is much bigger here. These series of units are designed to be used as training tools and for obesity.
Not fair to even try and compare models. Not fair on the designers or engineers that developed them. Its the marketers that try to cause confusion by deliberatly mislabeling their machines that are to blame. I know as i was asked to do this as Power-Plates product manager , but refused and went independant. Now im just a consumer and manufacturer. I will not get into the selling game again.
I have found a couple of good cross over units like Vibro-Gym and Body-Shaker that have both Therapy and Training settings. And we buy those to help with the shear numbers we do. Really good for beginners.
If you want an opinion on a unit, just ask. I have the factory specs on 35+ models, and will give you unbiased advice on what they where designed for.

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Roy Eichler

I am interested in the factory specs on the machines. I used the Power-Plates machine at the Regency Hotel in NY last weekend and liked it. Trainers who want to control the use of machine which requires their instruction I believe so that they can get the training time, took plug so I couldn't try the system out much.

Believe system has merit, but prices I saw were costly.
Thanks,
Roy Eichler

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Maureen

Lloyd
I have just heard about these vibrating machines from my daughter who is living in London at present. She was telling me how good the Powerplate Personal is for her. I live in Australia and am really interested in buying one of these machines ( not necessarily that brand) but can't find anywhere on the net to find one in Oz so I was wondering if you could help. Possibly suggest a good machine and hopefully tell me how I could get one here.
Maureen

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dan Fivey

Hi Maureen,

please see the website www.vibrogym.com.au

there is an excellent machine for the home available

call me on 0407025960, our office is in brisbane, but we come to you.

Dan

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Erica

Hi Lloyd

I have just seen an article on the Power-Plate here in South Africa. I am really interested in the time reduction and the opportunity to get a good training session without the joint and ligament pain from lifting weights. Can you recommend some vibration therapy machines for home use?
Erica

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iLard

There seems to me to be a lot of posturing & marketing going on in this immature industry. The sums involved (for the marketeers) is huge. I mean huge. Think about it... $4,000 to $6,000 for a vibrating devise? Notwithstanding the obvious technical knowlege required and the quality of materials needed to produce a reliable product, that still leaves plenty of room for huge fatcat sales commissions. These devices are less complex than an automatic washing machine, yet are 10 times the price. I would only trust the advise or opinion from individuals who are not plugging anything. Sorry, Lloyd Shaw, I don't buy your bias.

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Marcy

Hi Lloyd,
I would love to have the specs on the whole body vibration systems. I was at a show today and tried the Pro Ellixe model. I would love to have any additional information you have on these products.

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LLoyd Shaw

The Pro-Ellixe is a good home/professional unit , and a good way to get into vibration therapy. But i would not consider it a Vibration Training model.

The price though would put me off as you outgrow these units very quickly if used as a training tool. So far no-one has produced a home unit i would endorse. Sorry guys.
But most of the lighter units are great fo pain reduction, flexability , pelvic stability , incontinance and ostoeporosis.

To Roy ,The older Power-Plate is made of metal , good unit. The newer is made of plastic, not good.
I have never seen any " valid" factory specs from the newer model Power-Plate model. Only copies of other machines attached to it. When it has been tested though , it comes up well short of its advertised specs.

And iLard , are you so jaded that you believe everybody is unethical and only in it for themselves . Probably a good place to come from considering recent events. But maybe you should spend a day at my South Auckland mortuary to see why i set up Vibra-Train.

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Lloyd Shaw

Oh and yes peoples , most of these companies ( about 40 out of 45 of them ) get there parts from China so they build them for next to nothing. Cheapest Fq inverters , cheap isolators , just passable motors etc. They make a killing on the sales.

Power-Plate was selling its plastic model from China for 18K ? And are based on the simple 4 part eqaution that has been used for years.

The machines i build ( not for sale ) cost 11k minimum just to put together. They are hand built for commercial use only. They are based on a 9 part equation.

So i do know the real thing when i see it.

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Sandra Hart

I only have good things to say about the Power Plate. Am taking a 10 session course twice a week. I used the Power Plate (vibro gym) four times (30 secs at 30mz for ten minutes of training). Measured myself before sessions since I didn't believe all the talk about it either. After four times (two weeks) I lost two inches in my bust, 3 1/2 inches in my waist, 1 inch in my hips and 2 inches off both thighs. The machine is absolutely wonderful. The best thing is that you feel so great afterwards. You get a rush that makes you feel full or energy for days. Have bad knees and shoulders and this machine makes working out so great. You get a fantastic workout and don't hurt your joints. You are a little sore after the workout and you know you have used muscles that you haven't used in a while.

Try it and you will be hooked.

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Ruth

Hi,
I have just bought a Chinese brand for a fraction of the price. 300USD. It seems to do exactly what the powerplate does (and considering power plates are made here it might be an exact copy). free delivery and installation.
Real powerplate is way overpriced I find.
Now I just have to download some of the exercises as the manual is in Chinese though.
For 300USD, I simply feel I cannot have been cheated

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sandra

Where did Ruth buy the Chinese model from? Any other suggestions for someone from Canada?

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Robert

The only two types I have come across on the internet are powerplate and vibrogym and they may be the same company? Can any one recomend any other makes which are either better quality or better value?

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LLoyd Shaw

Firstly guys , yes most models are overpriced. Power-Plate get their machines for about 800Euro off the Chinese.
Vibro-Gym is a different company and most of the machine is built in Holland. Good units but warranties not good.

And i still havnt seen a Vibration Training machine from China yet. Therapy machines yes , but they do not do the same thing. Or i would buy them for my studios. My god it would save my studios a fortune.

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Nel

Hello all. I just found this thread through Google while looking for reviews on vibration therapy. Soloflex now makes one and it costs about 400USD. As I am starting to lose bone mass, my mother lost 4 inches in height over the last 20 years, I am intrigued.

Anyone have further results to report from the use?

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dan Fivey

Check out the research done on the Vibrogym

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dan Fivey

www.vibrogym.com.au

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Trix

Hi, I would really like to know where in the Johannesburg area can I find a Pilates Power Plate. I don't intend buying one, as I presume they are expensive, but would like to start training on it.If anyone can help, please.I think this is the exercise of the future.

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Bob

Hi folks, really good discussion going on. Just one question though, do these machines actually help you lose weight? It's great to say they are a marketer's dream (which makes me even more skeptical), but if they work, I'm on to it.... Can any of you experts really say, hand on heart, that if I signed up for a 5 week course I would lose weight? Thanks.

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Gregory.Rear

Hi
I am in Europe and there is now a lot of these machines coming out some as cheap as Aus$150 and others not so much more
I dont want to buy a product that does not work as well as it could
Any advice would be great as there are many of them.
I found the Vibrogym here for Aus$750
I want it for trimming down stubborn love handles and general health only

Many thanks

Greg

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Gregory.Rear

Hi
wondering if anyone still comes here
Hoping for advice re my last post

Thanks

Greg

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dan Fivey

hi greg,

make your enquiry on www.vibrogym.com.au

dan

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Adrian

Hey all,
i was just in paris for a month and disscovered the power-plate through a friend here. i began using it and find it wonderfull! the problem is, now i am leaving paris and moving back to NYC where i dont know of any gyms using the technology. does anyone know where i can use this type of machine in NYC?

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Sandy

I have osteoporosis and also wish to increase my metabolisim and lose weight. Please tell me where I can find one of these machines to use and or purchase in my area of West Palm Beach, Florida.

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Jim

A brief note to all previous posters:
First of all the cost for a Power-Plate is rather high, $9250 US, and there are numerous cheaper copies out there. The operative word is CHEAPER, in all aspects of the term. The research touted by other units is based (and copied) on research done by Power-Plate.
You have read the successes posted by satisfied users. Believe it! My wife has used the Power-Plate for 3 months and has reduced cellulite, basically eliminated varicose veins and toned-up to boot.
I am a Personal Trainer currently introducing two Popwer-Plate machines to my practice.
If you are interested in some comparitive on Power-Plate and the typical competitor e mail me at jimwilson31@comcast.net

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Ric

Hi, good to read all comments. Have found a supplier of the vibro fantastic in Melbourne. Use it at the local gym and found that beauty sececy corp sell it. Its a large unit probably biggger then the home or domestic type but the price is probably similar to the domestic versions as I have heard the large commercial units may be twice the price as what they have the vibro fantastics listed for.

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Jim

For Sandy who posted on 6/24
If you will e mail me I can help you obtain a Power Plate. Contact me for details.

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IRA

Does anyone have any experience with, or comments about the Hypergravity Home Exerciser US$3,500.

Their website is at
http://www.hypergravity.net/HEM.html

thanks

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FR

I really need advice ASAP. I bought the Power Plate and had it delivered today. I started the schedule recommended for beginners, which consists of a couple of strength excercises, a couple of stretches and a couple of relaxation positions.

The first few positions went fine, I really did feel it working yet without exhausting me. They were basically standing with legs bent, then further bent, then a deep squat.

However I then moved onto the stretches, which I thought a great benefit of the machine. They require the legs to be keps straight, unlike the previous excercises. Within a few seconds I felt the (very strong, even with all the mats and on the low setting) vibrations shaking not just my body but my head. And when I say my head, I don't just mean externally but internally too - I felt like the internal part of the front of my face (the gums up through the nose) were very soft and had a feeling halfway between nausea and the start of a nosebleed.

Of course I wasn't sick and didn't have a nosebleed - I just felt very strange in a sinster, non-beneficial way. So much so, that I had to stop the machine after about 5 seconds. I tried a different stretch and the same thing happened.

I am now very upset - I really want to use the machine as a previous illness has left me with a lot of fat and years of a complete lack of exercise to rectify.

I should mention that I am only in my 20s and have already taken the advice of my doctor who thought the machine could be 'worth a shot' but that it certainly shouldn't affect me adversely.

Has anyone else felt extreme discomfort like this? I am well aware that exercise should be uncomfortable, but stretches normally aren't and anyway, this went so far beyone discomfort - I felt sick and intuitively suspected I was putting my body at risk.

I would really appreciate comments from those who have used a vibration machine. I'm a bit freaked out to be honest.

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Hermes

Anything relevant for Greece? The nearest country for obtaining one of these machines? Available Transportations?

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rebecca

I'm in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. My sister has suffered from a stroke - she has lost mobility on her right side. Would one of these machines be beneficial to her? Where would I be able to find one in my area? I saw the ad for the soloflex machine. Is it any good.

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Jim

To FR who posted on July 6th. Please e mail me at jimwilson31@comcast.net so we can discuss your experience with the Power Plate. I am guessing you are using the home model, the P3. I use 2 commercial Power Plates in my Personal Training business (the New Generation), but my wife has experience with the home model that I can share with you.

Jim

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Tanya

I've been using the powerplate for about 3-4 months and have seen a huge improvement in my skin tone....i am definately alot more toner and one thing it has done is get rid of all my cellulite...the only thing it hasnt doen for me is to lose those pounds...

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mstexas

I just purchased the Soloflex WBV model online for $395 shipped. I can't wait to get it. I have a daughter that has scoliosis and I really feel that the major cause is very tight muscles but the doctors don't make any money massaging tight muscles. Her dance teacher has commented many times that my daughter has really tight muscle tension when she works on her stretches. As for me, I am obese and could really use some help also, so I am hoping this will help us both. My wife and kids are all in good shape but they love working out and both my boys and daughter all take dance so this should be right up their alley. I know that this may not be the best product on the market but it is affordable and from a company that is known for making good produts. So I will try it out and report the results...good or bad. Cheers!

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Claudia

Hi Jim and FR who posted on 6th and 16th July, Please get in contact with me as I am a trainer for PowerPlate in Auckland New Zealand, and I will be more than happy to help with any queries, problems with positions or more information, you have with and about PowerPlate. Please e-mail me at claudia.hannay@hotmail.com For that matter, anyone else who would like help with their home PowerPlate machine:-)

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