Is Ephedra Legal or Banned?
Ephedra-based diet supplements are completely and fully banned, despite many years of mixed messages.
Here is where things stand:
- February 2004 - FDA prohibited sales of diet supplements containing ephedrine alkaloids.
- In April 2005 a judge in Utah struck down the FDA ban.
- Later in 2005 supplement makers began making pills with a 10mg dose of the ephedra alkaloid. This made things very confusing and left many wondering whether ephedra was legal or not.
- Aug 17 2006, the FDA upheld their original ban (effectively reversing the Utah court decision).
The FDA Ban
From the FDA:No dosage of dietary supplements containing ephedrine alkaloids is safe and the sale of these products in the United States is illegal and subject to FDA enforcement action.
Ephedra will always remain a controversial supplement. Along with many critics, there are also many who support the use of ephedra as an effective fat burner.
The supporters claim an overall ban is unfair and that pharmaceutical drugs consistently bring far more deaths and adverse side effects than ephedra ever did. As to it's effectiveness, a report available on the FDA site concludes that:
The short-term use of ephedrine, ephedrine plus caffeine, or the assessed dietary supplements containing ephedra and herbs with caffeine is associated with a statistically significant increase in short-term weight loss (compared to placebo).
I suspect this debate will carry on for many years to come.
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Created / Updated: November 27, 2011
That is amazing. They don’t ban trans fats, cigarettes, or hydrogenated oils, but they ban something that has been safely used by thousands, if not millions of people over many years.
Replynot only that , but people are KNOWN to misuse things from time to time. - it's no wonder that some of them die.
ReplyThe ban of the ephedrine alkaloids, is true. However, the extract is still legal as far as I have heard. alkaloids and the extract are different,being the extract is much less potent.
ReplyPersonally I think all drugs should be legal, I think there would be a lot less crime, and a lot less money spent on good people going to jail.They could spend the money they saved on our children's education and rebuilding and doing maintenance on their dilapidating schools, and school buildings. if drugs were legal, we would probably have no deficit, no huge businesses failing, there would be a far stronger economy.who cares what everybody else does "live and let live" I don't know what that say's about all of us who feel this way, but that is how I feel.
sigh. ditto what iFitandHealthy said... amazing. yet HFCS and related crap is all over our food-- maybe the FDA could focus on the obesity epidemic, which kills hundreds of thousands more people than ephedra? hmm.
ReplyI know I used Xenadrine w/ephedra and lost 65 lbs in 4 months. It had me so pumped up to excersise that is all i wanted to do. And have kept the weight off for 5 years. Now I have gained back 35 and need it again. I have tried a few pills that claim to have ephedra in it but i guess the mixture just isn't the same.
ReplyI too used ephedra and lost 24 pounds and had boundless energy. Now, I have gained back 10 pounds and can't seem to lose it. Have you found anything compaarable to ephedra?
ReplyYou can still buy products with ephedra on the internet. You can also buy Primatine tablets in the drugstore, they have ephedrine in them, I used them for before my wedding and lost 14lbs in 2 weeks. You have to ask for them from the pharmacist, but they are legal, they regulate them because they can be used to make meth, you do not need a prescription, just have to show them your ID.
ReplyI am using pure ephedrine from last one year and i reduced my weight with 20lbs.
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ReplyIf trans-fats resulted in weight loss people would be gorging on them saying they were safe.
It’s sad what people will put in there bodies to lose weight even if it’s dangerous. Ephedra isn’t safe and people have died including ballplayers, and teenagers. I believe that Ephedra is a drug and not a supplement.
is this from over dose? i have heard that people can over dose on ephedrine but how much would you need to intake (tablet form) to overdose?? thanks
ReplyI am not pro-transfats by the way. :-)
ReplyNicotine (as a patch) and use of cigarettes could result in a weight loss. In fact, some knucklehead bodybuilders use nicotine patches in contest preparation. People die from many things; certainly millions have died from cigarettes, alcohol and hydrogenated oils. Every year people die from adverse reaction to Tylenol and other over the counter drugs.
I think it is a matter of a personal responsibility. There is already a huge black market for steroids and other drugs. Banning doesn’t seem to solve the problem. It only makes these substances more dangerous, because the market is flooded with poor quality fakes, which are truly dangerous.
ReplyHow can people say that Ephedra has helped people safely lose weight? People have died!
It is not safe. Just because you want to believe it is so doesn't make it so.
The FDA actually doesn't ban many substances. It's not as if they are barring product left and right. There was a serious need here.
If weight loss is all that matters, hey Crystal Meth will absolutely make you lose weight. Let's be honest here people!
You don't NEED a substance to help you lose weight-- you need to stick to it, control your Calories and exercise more! It amazes me what people will justify because it works out for them.
ReplyI absolutely agree with you. Someone wrote it helped lose weight and kept it of for so many years, BUT, not they need it again.
ReplyWhoever thinks that pills help them lose weight are wrong, your will does. Pills are destroying your liver. In this world we live in now where all kinds of medications are needed and available for every simple cold to start with, you don't need to be destroying your body knowingly and willingly just to lose weight. There's a lot healthy options out there.
What people don't fully understand is that ephedrine was taken off the market because it is a threat to prescription medication. When people take Ephedrine they lose weight. When people lose weight the obesity problem in America decreases which gives less diabetes, heart disease and a huge array of other fat associated diseases. The FDA is persuaded by the drug companies for these decisions. It's all based on money and greed.
Yes some have died due to abuse. The number of deaths with Ephedrine comes even come close to the number of deaths with prescriptions meds.
Replythey use ephedrine to make meth.. that's one of the BIG reasons it was banned unless it is for medicinal purposes. i take prematine tablets nodoz and baby aspirin. it's perfectly safe as long as you're not an idiot and don't abuse it. i wouldn't recommend taking it before a workout either. i only do in the morning when i wake up and an hour or so after my workouts which is 6-7 hours after i wake up. it works great for me. sometimes it causes the jitters a tad bit but so do energy drinks and they make you FAT
ReplyThey use pseudo-ephedrine to make meth. They are two different chemicals.
ReplyThe only difference between ephedrine and pseudoephedrine is the orientation of the hydroxyl group on the benzylic carbon. Both are almost identical to methamphetamine and it can be synthesized easily from either one.
ReplyYes people have died....BY NOT FOLLOWING THE DIRECTIONS.
C'mon people we're all adults
Replymommyx4 - You don't "need" Xenadrine/ephedra again. You need to reduce your calories and work out. I know someone who took ephedra 15 years ago (before it was banned) and now has permanent heart and liver damage - her doctors linked it to the ephedra. Granted, she was one of the unlucky ones, but do you want to run the risk? Stay safe!
ReplyI've used ephedra for years and never had a problem. this is sad. it helps me study/focus and gives me energy.
Replythe FDA needs to mind it's own damn bussiness and stop being big brother.
Where do you get your ephedrine? I can't find it anywhere anymore.
ReplyThe people that abused ephedra would take a pill, and lose some weight. They then figured, "If I take 10 pills I might lose 10x the weight..." Anything can be abused. Eat too many oranges and you'll hurt your stomach and your teeth.
I don't condone any supplement as the solution to all, but I do question why the FDA picks out certain ingredients but overlooks others.
Think of the mayhem caused by binge-drinking... yet we don't ban alcohol.
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ReplyJim
Thank you for pointing that out.
Many people don't know that that congress passed a law that makes it very hard for the FDA to ban anything. This why many things that should be banned aren’t because their hands are tied.
The fact that the FDA was able to ban Ephedra means they had and overwhelming evidence that the drug isn’t safe.
Many of the people who died were teens.
When we're talking about weightloss the abuse level is too great. It's too easy too abuse.
Also not everyone who had ill effects abused the drug some people had un-known conditions.
People lost with Phen-phen but the drug hurt some people not all the people who took the drug.
Out of millions of users, 157 people died over a several year period. How many could have been teens? And under the same criteria, many people have died using Red Bull--almost ALL of them teens. But they died because they were stupid. Kids died sniffing PAM. Why hasn't it been banned? I can die by eating enough rocks. Ban rocks! Almost 1,000 children drown in back yard pools in the US every year--10 times the number in accidental hand gun accidents, and 100s of times the number that EVER died from ephedra. And yet, I have never heard ONE PERSON suggest that private pools should be banned. Hmm, seems we are selective with our concern for children. --James
ReplyI want to share my experience and knowledge on this subject so that people don't get the wrong idea about things based on unverified myths.
Some have previously pointed out the claim that "You don't need a pill to lose weight, you just need to count your calories and exercise." I would have thought it would be common knowledge in this day and age that there are people who's metabolism is naturally low which makes it very difficult for them to lose weight even when following the oft quoted mantra from above to the strictest degree.
In life, there are many ways of achieving the same goals each carrying different pros and cons. Shouldn't it be an individual's liberty which one of those paths he thinks is best, which set of pros and cons he will choose?
If anyone is familiar with the harm principle, it states that the only right a government has to interfere with an individual's personal decisions is when those personal decisions cause harm to someone other than himself. Now, one could argue that using potentially harmful drugs harms others than the user by causing sadness in those close to him. This is a weak argument though, for think of this analogous situation. A son decides he is not Christian anymore and it hurts his mother who is a fundamentalist Christian. It causes deep pain in her because she believes that her son is going to go to hell for eternity. If we follow the same line of logic, the logic that says an individual harms those he cares when he uses drugs because it could cause him harm which saddens them, we would have to conclude that the son should have to be a fundamentalist Christian to take away his mother's pain, because I guarantee you the mother who believes her child is going to hell hurts just as bad as the one who's child is using drugs.
But the real reason people favor prohibitive laws against substances doesn't have to do with any kind of reasoning as complex as that, it is because we live under the rule of a daddy government and as a result, the majority are indoctrinated to believe that it is "just right" that a government should "protect" its citizens by placing laws on potentially harmful substances, and they take it for granted that their government is a worthy judge of OK substances and NOT OK substances.
One of the biggest drivers of stigmatization of particular substances or activities is that you are always going to hear the horror stories about drugs, but you'll seldom hear the life/quality of life-saving stories. There is multitude of people who use pain medication who have been given back their ability to enjoy life, to have occupation, to be free from suffering for every one person who overdoses. And in reality, things could be much better than they are if it weren't for the always-err-on-the-side-of-under-treating-pain climate that the recent DEA "crackdown" on "mis-prescribing" practices has created in medicine, which creates a situation where people in quality-of-life-robbing pain can't get meds legally and end up hooked on black market substitutes exposing them to the risks of impurities, a narrow range of options usually only consisting of H, an unsteady supply, and arguably the worst of all, they are left without the advice of a professional who can work with them to arrive at the best possible treatment.
So Ephedra has risks... Everything has risks, working your ass off at the gym and counting calories every meal and still being unable to lose a healthy amount of weight has many risks... Heart disease, joint wear n tear, depression, suicide.
Honestly, most people commend our daddy government's drug policy because their life has not placed them in a situation that conventional means have not been able to solve. Take a person who believes in our prohibitionist policy, put 5 years of bad fibromyalgia pain on his belt and the depression that comes from seeing your life fall apart, that comes from not being able to perform at your job as well as before, or at all, the pain of seeing your relationships deteriorate because you can't go out much anymore, and because you aren't as jubilant as before, and you want to be really bad, but no matter how hard you try, you can't crack anything but a fake-it-til-you-make-it smile. Even the most rigid conservative who's been indoctrinated to the highest degree into thinking that our drug laws are just will break when he has been to more doctors than he can count, none being able to treat his problem with conventional means, and every one of them turning down his plea of desparation for something stronger than Darvocet so that he can have just one more happy moment without pain.
There is the typical bell curve that describes our populations need for use of drugs. There's those who never need it, those who need what's conventional, and a little tiny percentile of people who are living in hell in spite of having gone through every possible conventional treatment only to have minimally detectable relief. It is important for these people that they be afforded every possible solution to their woes. It is necessary that these people be allowed to decide for themselves whether they will assume the risks that our prohibited substances pose. For someone writhing in pain that has not abated for more than fleeting moments for years and years, who is big daddy pants to say that morphine isn't worth the risk. Many people feel so bad that they wish they would just die, but are too devoted to their family to put them through the trama. Who is daddy to say that these people, who by their account are better off dead than the way they currently are, cannot decide to assume the risks of this drug or that for the possibility of finding relief, at the possibility of switching from "I wish I could just die, but I can't kill myself" to "Ah, at last, I can see the world clearly again without the blinding veil of my body's suffering." Who is anyone to take that chance away from someone.
Of coarse, that is an extreme illustration, but any theory worth it's weight in gold must be able to admit of extremes. And seriously, get over yourselves, just because you wouldn't personally take a risk, or let your young child take a risk, doesn't mean that someone else can't say, after a fully rational inquiry into the subject, that the risk is worth it for them.
We humans sprang into existence without being consulted first on whether or not we wanted to, and it's sickening to think that now that we are here, we can't use all of the world's offerings to make our lives better, or at least less painful. If someone would rather spend their precious time in this one chance of existence they will ever get doing something other than spending an hour at the gym every day, and depriving themselves of the food they love, who are we to say they can't assume the risk of using a pill with risks. Even if it is the "easy way" or "cheating," who says that's wrong.
ReplyPeople will probably find something else to abuse to lose weight and it will probably be just as unsafe as Ephedra and then it too will get banned. Lots of supplements out there will make you lose weight, but as Jim pointed out, the danger is in EXCESS consumption. You can die by taking in too much caffeine, theoretically.
ReplyOverwhelming evidence?
Actually it says in the report that "RAND called such cases "sentinel events," because they may indicate a safety problem but do not prove that ephedra caused the adverse event. The study recognized that such case studies are a weak form of scientific evidence."
At the end FDA ruled that maybe 5 death could be attributed to ephedra, but even in those cases it was obvios that it was not used aproprietly.
In contrast 106,000 people died in 1994 because of overmedication or adverse reactions to prescription drugs, while over 12 million of people used Ephedra safely in 1999 alone.
So, yes there's overwhelming evidence that drugs are not safe, but Ephedra is not a drug, it is an herb.
ReplyIt's a shame.
You're more likely to die choking on a steak in a resturant than die of an ephedra-based death.
Just so you know, this doesn't apply to ephedrine HCL (which is the non-herbal version found in certain cold medicines). You can go to your local gas station and buy it pretty inexpensively. Stack it with 200 mg of caffeine and your aspirin... poof... ECA stack.
Most of what I've seen only have a small amount of one other drug combined with the ephedrine.
I'm not saying that someone should go for it but that it is still available if you know where to look.
It's unfortunate that the PR for ephedra-based supplements has been so bad.
No one will fight it this time around...
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